The mother wants to pay for one package (well, which one?! the items have been long disperse. Dont tell me only found 1 item in the package!) despite her daughter "didnt ordered it but signed for it?!" Zzzz zzz zzz. She must have been shocked to find out that her daughter is dishonest.
VS:
It means your daughter is doing it behind your back. Pls ask her why she have your credit card number without your permission. It is sad that she didnt admit when you asked her earlier.
It is IMPOSSIBLE she didnt ordered it. Pls ask her if she didnt order, why should she signed it? Did she opened up the package and keep all the items? She should reject the package, isnt it?
Also, she signed for more than 1 package. She signed total of 4 packages since November 2007 and we have all the receipts she had signed. These are the proof of cheating we plan to inform the Police.
Pls ask your daughter for more information about this issue.
We will only report to the police if we didnt receive the full payment by Feb 29th. We only accept Western Union and not credit card. You may continue to "reject" the credit card bills. We do not wish to receive any payment from your credit card. It is too risky for us.
We will email you shortly the total she owned to us since November 2006. All orders are made by her.
We thank you very much for your kind help in this issue.
The mother:
i have found out when i went to one of daughter's room that there was package from you,it says yr address..srry but yes one of my daughers signed for it but never ordered it since i am only one possision with the card and she doesnt even know my pay pal account. i am very sorry but i still want to put a claim on this. i already contacted my credit card issuer. it will probably never happen again. i dont know who is doing all of this, but it makes no sence at all. so now what are u going to do? i dont want my daughter going to jail or anything cause all she did was sign some paper and receive a box?...i am truly very srry once again.[¡Ùßúýñâ©ó
Saturday, February 16, 2008
Professional Scammers?
"The mother"'s reply. Must read from bottom up to get the picture. Seems like a professional team at work? Or the "mother" is persistant in protecting her daughter? All her replies are so vague. We will also ask all jrock fans to spread the word once we published it at our blog. Their denial Really gets into our nerves man! Despite all proofs, still dead denying!
We will leave it to the police to investigate.
Also, we will publish all your the names, all email address and your mailing address on our next update at our blog. We want to inform all jrock fans to prevent them from sending items to your address. It is too dangerous.
We will also include these information at all jrock forums. We want to prevent the same thing happen to other people.
We have the responsibility to protect all jrock fans against scammers.
Hope it will make the person who is behind this stop this scam.
and i read the email over again, how does the person using my card and other things know my hom phone number? very odd.
-BTW, when someone makes the payment thru paypal using your account and card 1st time, there is a receipt of payment to your email add. If you are NOT the one making payment, how come you didnt do anything when you receives such Paypal's receipt and keep receiving such receipts and do nothing? It is a very lapse in responsibility on your part. You can email us coz there is our email address but unfortunately you did nothing and it caused us so much money and trouble after more than 3 months. We hope you will be more responsible for such issues in the future. It is really bad..
At the end of the day, people can do all the cheatings but they cannot cheat their own heart.
"The Mother"
okay then.
i would love to coroperate on this.?
what would i need to do?
and i read the email over again, how does the person using my card and other things know my hom phone number? very odd.
VS:
Hi,
We have an US customer who replied last night that she is able to help us file a police report in the US regarding this case.
We will her sent all the proof of all emails, shipping documents, Paypal payments and Chargeback informations on Monday.
We hope you can co-operate with the police regarding this case. It is good that you are always at home.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
We definately hope to find out what is going on to prevent other people from being victims. Cheating is a very serious offence and we view this seriously.
"The Mother"
i am sorry but this is not my daughters email...
i know my daughters email..
email add 1
email add 2
these are only ones..they never make new one or anythign cause we only have one computer!
i asked them again and they dont even reconize it at all..
they are honest..never told a lie at all!
so i dont know?
what are u going to do?
VS
Hi,
This is one of an old email one of your daughter reply to us saying she had informed her parents Know she is using your card. It is the PROOF that she is the one who bought from us.
And now you tell us no one bought and pay for the items? Can you pls explain ?
Pls do us a Big favour to print out this email and Ask which daughter wrote this mail? It is no good to have such dishonesty among young people.
We hope you can be in our shoes and think about this situation. We are Not acusing something that we Do Not have proof. We have all the shipping proof too. Do you want us to mail it to you?
The email below is a Very Good proof that it is one of your daughter that do all the transactions and her parents know about it. She told us this herself.
"The daughter's email"
okay!!hopes that won't happne again?
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:12:07 +0800
VS
Hi Aki,
No, we mean, if we still received the claims from Paypal, we will not allow you to order anymore. It is because it caused us alot of inconvenience.
Best regards,Visual SHoxx
The Daughter
alright then!!i tell them and let them know!!they should know i bought it cause they let me use it!!well i inform them again?what? i can't buy from you again? WAHH that suxs!!
VS
Yes, you paid for the regular shipping.
Btw, we receive again a claim from Paypal informing us to refund SGD$90 from your order in November. Pls INFORM your parents not to make the claims anymore as you have bought the items. Now our money in Paypal is on hold because of the 2 claims.
If this problem continues, we have to stop accepting your orders immediately.
Best regards,
Visual SHoxx
We will leave it to the police to investigate.
Also, we will publish all your the names, all email address and your mailing address on our next update at our blog. We want to inform all jrock fans to prevent them from sending items to your address. It is too dangerous.
We will also include these information at all jrock forums. We want to prevent the same thing happen to other people.
We have the responsibility to protect all jrock fans against scammers.
Hope it will make the person who is behind this stop this scam.
and i read the email over again, how does the person using my card and other things know my hom phone number? very odd.
-BTW, when someone makes the payment thru paypal using your account and card 1st time, there is a receipt of payment to your email add. If you are NOT the one making payment, how come you didnt do anything when you receives such Paypal's receipt and keep receiving such receipts and do nothing? It is a very lapse in responsibility on your part. You can email us coz there is our email address but unfortunately you did nothing and it caused us so much money and trouble after more than 3 months. We hope you will be more responsible for such issues in the future. It is really bad..
At the end of the day, people can do all the cheatings but they cannot cheat their own heart.
"The Mother"
okay then.
i would love to coroperate on this.?
what would i need to do?
and i read the email over again, how does the person using my card and other things know my hom phone number? very odd.
VS:
Hi,
We have an US customer who replied last night that she is able to help us file a police report in the US regarding this case.
We will her sent all the proof of all emails, shipping documents, Paypal payments and Chargeback informations on Monday.
We hope you can co-operate with the police regarding this case. It is good that you are always at home.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
We definately hope to find out what is going on to prevent other people from being victims. Cheating is a very serious offence and we view this seriously.
"The Mother"
i am sorry but this is not my daughters email...
i know my daughters email..
email add 1
email add 2
these are only ones..they never make new one or anythign cause we only have one computer!
i asked them again and they dont even reconize it at all..
they are honest..never told a lie at all!
so i dont know?
what are u going to do?
VS
Hi,
This is one of an old email one of your daughter reply to us saying she had informed her parents Know she is using your card. It is the PROOF that she is the one who bought from us.
And now you tell us no one bought and pay for the items? Can you pls explain ?
Pls do us a Big favour to print out this email and Ask which daughter wrote this mail? It is no good to have such dishonesty among young people.
We hope you can be in our shoes and think about this situation. We are Not acusing something that we Do Not have proof. We have all the shipping proof too. Do you want us to mail it to you?
The email below is a Very Good proof that it is one of your daughter that do all the transactions and her parents know about it. She told us this herself.
"The daughter's email"
okay!!hopes that won't happne again?
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:12:07 +0800
VS
Hi Aki,
No, we mean, if we still received the claims from Paypal, we will not allow you to order anymore. It is because it caused us alot of inconvenience.
Best regards,Visual SHoxx
The Daughter
alright then!!i tell them and let them know!!they should know i bought it cause they let me use it!!well i inform them again?what? i can't buy from you again? WAHH that suxs!!
VS
Yes, you paid for the regular shipping.
Btw, we receive again a claim from Paypal informing us to refund SGD$90 from your order in November. Pls INFORM your parents not to make the claims anymore as you have bought the items. Now our money in Paypal is on hold because of the 2 claims.
If this problem continues, we have to stop accepting your orders immediately.
Best regards,
Visual SHoxx
Friday, February 15, 2008
Case close
The mum's reply:
i have no idea why its on address...
but i am always home and never have recived anything..
i dont think they could have used my card since its in my possion and i carry with me at all tims.and what do u mean by closing this case and doing charity for it? i dont understand?
Her reply was "i have no idea" why we have the record of her email and her address. No idea how to reply her because it seems "GHOST must have used her card to buy all the items and have it shipped to her address Without Anyone in the house receiving all items. The Ghost loves Ps Company bands!". Cant imagine if i replied her this. She may feel that her house is haunted. My imagination running wild....i wish i could tell her there Must be some kind of dishonesty among her girls.
Hope it is wat vonnie says, when something is lost, another thing comes..and that is the X-Japan's tickets. The 3rd show's results will be out on the 19th Feb. 4 days to go!!!~
No point getting angry over dishonest people. Wont let it make feel me down and unlucky!
i have no idea why its on address...
but i am always home and never have recived anything..
i dont think they could have used my card since its in my possion and i carry with me at all tims.and what do u mean by closing this case and doing charity for it? i dont understand?
Her reply was "i have no idea" why we have the record of her email and her address. No idea how to reply her because it seems "GHOST must have used her card to buy all the items and have it shipped to her address Without Anyone in the house receiving all items. The Ghost loves Ps Company bands!". Cant imagine if i replied her this. She may feel that her house is haunted. My imagination running wild....i wish i could tell her there Must be some kind of dishonesty among her girls.
Hope it is wat vonnie says, when something is lost, another thing comes..and that is the X-Japan's tickets. The 3rd show's results will be out on the 19th Feb. 4 days to go!!!~
No point getting angry over dishonest people. Wont let it make feel me down and unlucky!
Thursday, February 14, 2008
A Dishonest Customer Part 3
Mail received from the dishonest customer (it is the mum) this morning:
Well i am sorry but we certainly havn't been recieving anything at all. i don't how that can be since its always me keeping an eye on the house? intresting? i have asked the family members and ther isn't no one that bought anything from there.i know who the artist are but i have two daughters and they do like that stuff but they are not young..young adult age?i asked them if thay been to the site,they answered yes but never bought anything!
My reply:
i asked them if thay been to the site,they answered yes but never bought anything!
- If so, how come your home address and email address appears in our record?? Can you pls explain?
It definately makes no sense and no one wants to admit making purchases from us. Perhaps they are afraid you may scold them as they (one of them) use your card without your permission. That is what we can think of.)
Unfortunately, we will have to close this case and take it we do a Charity for it.
It is just our luck meet dishonest people.
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Still dead denying!!~ It really makes me blow my top!!~ Esp "they been to the site but never bought anything". Trying to kid us?
Well i am sorry but we certainly havn't been recieving anything at all. i don't how that can be since its always me keeping an eye on the house? intresting? i have asked the family members and ther isn't no one that bought anything from there.i know who the artist are but i have two daughters and they do like that stuff but they are not young..young adult age?i asked them if thay been to the site,they answered yes but never bought anything!
My reply:
i asked them if thay been to the site,they answered yes but never bought anything!
- If so, how come your home address and email address appears in our record?? Can you pls explain?
It definately makes no sense and no one wants to admit making purchases from us. Perhaps they are afraid you may scold them as they (one of them) use your card without your permission. That is what we can think of.)
Unfortunately, we will have to close this case and take it we do a Charity for it.
It is just our luck meet dishonest people.
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Still dead denying!!~ It really makes me blow my top!!~ Esp "they been to the site but never bought anything". Trying to kid us?
A Dishonest Customer part 2
This girl replied again saying "yes, this is my home address but i did not receive any items from you. And i dont know anyone from this hotmail. So, i refused all the payments from my credit card. You are upset about this?" (--> stupid question)
We replied "We have all shipping documents stating someone from your home address had received ALL the items. If no, why does she emailed us many times saying she had received our items and it was great, wonderful etc?? Dont you find it strange? There must be someone in your house that receives the items. It might be that you are not aware yet. It should be a young girl who like Alice Nine and Miyavi (inserts PS company url, for her reference in case she dont know who the artists are). This issue cost us Alot of money and inconvenience and obviously we are Very upset and feel cheated. We have been in this biz for 2 years and this is the first time we encounter such an unpleasant incident. If you are in our shoes, you would have feel the same. We hope you can help us by doing a thorough check with your family members and reply us again."
We think the person who is emailing now might be her mother... If yes, of coz she did not receive the items, it was her Daughter who receives them and now, keeping mum about it (coz her mum will definately scold her for spending without her permission!)
We replied "We have all shipping documents stating someone from your home address had received ALL the items. If no, why does she emailed us many times saying she had received our items and it was great, wonderful etc?? Dont you find it strange? There must be someone in your house that receives the items. It might be that you are not aware yet. It should be a young girl who like Alice Nine and Miyavi (inserts PS company url, for her reference in case she dont know who the artists are). This issue cost us Alot of money and inconvenience and obviously we are Very upset and feel cheated. We have been in this biz for 2 years and this is the first time we encounter such an unpleasant incident. If you are in our shoes, you would have feel the same. We hope you can help us by doing a thorough check with your family members and reply us again."
We think the person who is emailing now might be her mother... If yes, of coz she did not receive the items, it was her Daughter who receives them and now, keeping mum about it (coz her mum will definately scold her for spending without her permission!)
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
A Dishonest Customer
This is the reply that just received from the USA girl who absconded with our products worth more than US$350 since Nov 07.
Wondering if it is really HER (is she's faking it?!) or it is NOT her.
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Hello But this is not AKi!!
who is this AKi?
never heard of it?
may be got wrong email adress?
*************************************************************************************
We sent another email yesterday to her Paypal add (Yahoo) since we didnt get any response from her main mail account (hotmail --> mine is down sometimes, so i presume her's too, that is why she didnt response). Finally, we got the above reply from her Yahoo account.
Reason we emailed her again is because Paypal emails us yesterday to inform they had docked S$15 for the chargeback admin fees from our Paypal account. So, total Paypal had docked in total is S$60 for all the 4 chargebacks caused by her. The angry thing is, we have lost all the money (for goods and shipping) and on top of that, WE have to pay the admin fees for the chargeback???!~ Crazy right?? And she gotten everything for FREE?
The email above sounds fishing.. It seems like her coz she uses "broken English" too.
So, we replied her asking if she knows anyone from this "hotmail" address and if the Mailing Address hers as per states. If yes, it might be one of the family member?!
Still, if she is all out to cheat, she will denied all the way. No harm trying and hoping there will be some kind of results in the end. Rather than losing all the money and dont know what actually happened.
Im very pissed by this incident. Thought to post all her email addresses and mailing address so other ppl can avoid doing business with this dishonest girl *i am evil*
Wondering if it is really HER (is she's faking it?!) or it is NOT her.
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Hello But this is not AKi!!
who is this AKi?
never heard of it?
may be got wrong email adress?
*************************************************************************************
We sent another email yesterday to her Paypal add (Yahoo) since we didnt get any response from her main mail account (hotmail --> mine is down sometimes, so i presume her's too, that is why she didnt response). Finally, we got the above reply from her Yahoo account.
Reason we emailed her again is because Paypal emails us yesterday to inform they had docked S$15 for the chargeback admin fees from our Paypal account. So, total Paypal had docked in total is S$60 for all the 4 chargebacks caused by her. The angry thing is, we have lost all the money (for goods and shipping) and on top of that, WE have to pay the admin fees for the chargeback???!~ Crazy right?? And she gotten everything for FREE?
The email above sounds fishing.. It seems like her coz she uses "broken English" too.
So, we replied her asking if she knows anyone from this "hotmail" address and if the Mailing Address hers as per states. If yes, it might be one of the family member?!
Still, if she is all out to cheat, she will denied all the way. No harm trying and hoping there will be some kind of results in the end. Rather than losing all the money and dont know what actually happened.
Im very pissed by this incident. Thought to post all her email addresses and mailing address so other ppl can avoid doing business with this dishonest girl *i am evil*
Happy News~
My friend just emailed me:
There was a report from YOSHIKI mobile.
They accept the early reservation. I applied. (3/29 x 4)
The result announcement day is February 19.
Im soooooooo happy. At least, there is priority for Yoshiki mobile members..XD. Hope Kaori applied it today too. Maximum ticket per member is can apply is 4 tickets. Of coz must max it!~
There was a report from YOSHIKI mobile.
They accept the early reservation. I applied. (3/29 x 4)
The result announcement day is February 19.
Im soooooooo happy. At least, there is priority for Yoshiki mobile members..XD. Hope Kaori applied it today too. Maximum ticket per member is can apply is 4 tickets. Of coz must max it!~
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